I am looking for a legal iptv service to replace Rogers ignite tv

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2020-Oct-1 1:58 pm

I am looking for a legal iptv service to replace Rogers ignite tv

I have Rogers ignite 500u with their premium TV service. I want to switch to FibreStream but they don’t offer any tv service. Are there any good and legal tv/iptv services that I can get to replace Rogers premium tv?

· actions · 2020-Oct-1 1:58 pm ·
Fraoch
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2020-Oct-1 2:15 pm

TPIAs Start, TekSavvy and VMedia all have their own IPTV services, but you have to subscribe to their Internet services.

· actions · 2020-Oct-1 2:15 pm · to TTTTTT
Like Fraoch said, there are multiple options available but you have to use the same ISP – ie Teksavvy for Teksavvy TV, Start for Start TV, etc

»www.start.ca/services/tv
»www.teksavvy.com/service ··· evision/
»www.vmedia.ca/en/tv

· actions · 2020-Oct-1 2:19 pm ·
HiVolt
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I think the only one you can use without being with a specific ISP, is Bell Alt.TV

But its not like full blown TV, the channel lineup is probably limited too.

· actions · 2020-Oct-1 3:00 pm · to TTTTTT
And this one River TV?: »RiverTV Beta (Vmedia) is now live! · actions · 2020-Oct-1 5:26 pm ·
HiVolt
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HiVolt

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2020-Oct-1 6:03 pm

Yeah, but that’s an extremely limited set of channels, i think the ones owned by Corus or the ones they have rights to.

Everything else the rights belong to Bell & Rogers

· actions · 2020-Oct-1 6:03 pm · to TTTTTT

I’m looking as well cable tv is too expensive

· actions · 2020-Oct-2 1:10 am · to TTTTTT
You need to have the ISP’s service to subscribe to their IPTV service…this is a CRTC requirement.

You can get 500 with TekSavvy now, and their IPTV service. I use it via Firestick- works great.

· actions · 2020-Oct-2 8:16 am · to TTTTTT
You can always try Amazon Prime Channels »www.primevideo.com/store ··· channels There is a monthly/yearly fee for Prime and additional monthly fee for the channel packages but this gives you channels such as Global, History, Showcase, Food, HGTV, YTV, Adult Swim and other specialty channels such as Starz. If you’ve never been an Amazon subscriber, it is a 30 day free trial for everything, however, it is as costly as Rogers TV with extra perks for shopping and streaming services. · actions · 2020-Oct-3 12:33 pm · BACONATOR26 to Fiftytwo144
said by Fiftytwo144:

Like Fraoch said, there are multiple options available but you have to use the same ISP – ie Teksavvy for Teksavvy TV, Start for Start TV, etc

CarryTel is also offering IPTV service since August for a good price. Same thing, you need to subscribe to their internet service and I don’t know anyone who has used it yet.

»www.carrytel.ca/iptv-plans.aspx

· actions · 2020-Oct-3 12:35 pm · to TTTTTT

Is YouTube TV available in Canada or only the US/USA?

· actions · 2020-Oct-3 3:17 pm ·

US only for now

· actions · 2020-Oct-3 3:24 pm ·

Thanks!

· actions · 2020-Oct-3 3:36 pm ·
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i’m on VDSL (50d/10u) with Teksavvy.

i’m happy with Teksavvy TV.
basic $20 + news $8 + Sports $20 = $48/month

got TekTV this past july .. my test was how hockey was .. it was fine.

the only sometimes shaky channel is CNN, all other channels are fine .. that said, CNN was sometimes shaky on Rogers cable as well.

i’m also glad to forgo the annual whine & bitch exercise with Rogers to get a discount to get the price more reasonable.

· actions · 2020-Oct-3 3:53 pm · to TTTTTT
What about slingtv »www.sling.com/channels?footer · actions · 2020-Oct-4 10:37 pm ·
Fraoch
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2020-Oct-4 10:44 pm

Sling TV does not operate in Canada.

· actions · 2020-Oct-4 10:44 pm ·

It can be purchased semi-legitimately. I tried it for a few months and it was great. Quality was great too.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 7:15 am · to GoRaptors

YouTube TV will never make it to Canada. Plus, it ain’t cheap anymore.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 8:33 am ·

TTTTTT

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2020-Oct-5 10:39 am

OP here. Thanks for all the replies. I’m not really seeing any good options here. Is the reason there aren’t any legit iptv services with a full channel offering because the big telcos own exclusive rights?

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 10:39 am ·
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2020-Oct-5 10:40 am

said by TTTTTT:

I’m not really seeing any good options here. Is the reason there aren’t any legit iptv services with a full channel offering because the big telcos own exclusive rights?

You got it. They want your money with their services. It’s vertical integration at its finest – they not only own the delivery method, they own the content. · actions · 2020-Oct-5 10:40 am ·

TTTTTT

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2020-Oct-5 10:48 am

I don’t understand why there isn’t a massive anti-competitive lawsuit against the telcos regarding this. With every passing day the situation is becoming more and more ridiculous. There are many people willing to pay for alternatives but reasonable alternatives simple don’t exist – not legal ones anyway.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 10:48 am ·
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2020-Oct-5 11:07 am

said by TTTTTT:

I don’t understand why there isn’t a massive anti-competitive lawsuit against the telcos regarding this. With every passing day the situation is becoming more and more ridiculous. There are many people willing to pay for alternatives but reasonable alternatives simple don’t exist – not legal ones anyway.

Oh it gets way better.

Live sports broadcasting has become the new carrot offered by the cartel to lure and keep customers addicted and attached to bloated overpriced cable packages.

And the media concentration vertical integration mentality has resulted in ridiculous scenarios.

For example, Bell and Rogers owns controlling interest in MLSE, which in turn owns The Toronto Maple Leafs, the Toronto Raptors, Major League Soccer’s Toronto FC, and the Toronto Marlies of the AHL. Oh, they also own Scotiabank Arena. So in that case, they own the building, the team, the broadcasting rights, the channels they broadcast on, and the delivery systems including cable and internet – end to end ownership. Something the CRTC and IC are tasked with preventing – one of their core mandates.

In 2017, the owners of TSN (Bell) and the owners of Sportsnet (Rogers) raised their prices for TSN and Sportsnet for bar owners.

»nationalpost.com/sports/ ··· portsnet

Those price increases, in some case 3-400%, for both channels, arrived on the very same day. And bar owners were given one of 2 options, pay up or shut off. On the same day. And the way many bars were handled by the cartel was, they shut the channels down and forced the bars to call in to agree to pay the enormous rate hikes. Did I mention Bell and Rogers went forward with this on the very same day?

How does that happen? Only 1 way. Collusion.

Truly, these are disgusting, despicable companies. Doing business with them directly should be avoided wherever possible.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 11:07 am ·
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Agreed. The government should never have allowed such complete vertical integration – it’s anti-competition and anti-consumer and the incumbents use it as a weapon against competitors and against consumers. But they allowed it a long time ago and it’s baked into the system now.

Companies like SlingTV and Hulu won’t touch the Canadian market and I don’t blame them. Too many government rules regarding CanCon and too much interference from the incumbents who will demand their cut since they own the content which these companies would be forced to distribute.

Since the incumbents also bought rights from American companies with content popular in Canada, those services (like HBO) will never go direct to consumers here either but through an incumbent (Bell – CraveTV with the HBO package at $19.99/month).

They own everything, all Canadian content and (rights to) all American content. They have even gone as far as to ban some content they have rights to but do not air in Canada, just because.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 11:10 am ·
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HiVolt to dmd

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2020-Oct-5 11:11 am

to dmd
Rogers owns 100% of the Blue Jays, the Skydome, and of course Sportsnet.

You can’t watch the Blue Jays on anything but Sportsnet. Heck, even if you subscribe to the MLB.tv package from MLB itself, the Blue Jays games are blacked out.

Want to stream the Blue Jays games? Pay for Sportsnet Now. No other option.

It’s truly despicable. And thats why many are turning to grey market sports streams. I’m 5 years into mine and its great, for pennies on the dollar vs having to subscribe to TV.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 11:11 am · to Fraoch

I have resisted the grey market thus far. But, the more I learn how anti competitive, anti-consumer, and quite frankly illegal the telcos operate the harder it gets. I would love to see how a court case would play out where the anti consumer and anti competitive incumbent practices are pitted against the grey market and alternatives. Somethings gotta give.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 11:34 am ·
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2020-Oct-5 11:38 am

The incumbents are testing the waters in this field. A few years ago Bell suggested they wanted to make VPNs illegal because they can be used to thwart geo-restrictions. Thankfully that didn’t go anywhere but the idea is still out there.

Then there was another attempt, this one fairly serious, to put together a firewall to block access to content the incumbents declared illegal. That almost got through. It’s still on the books and hasn’t gone away: »www.fairplaycanada.com/

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 11:38 am ·
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said by TTTTTT:

Somethings gotta give.

The incumbents started issuing Cease & Desist letters 2 years ago, and actually filed Notices of Claim against many android box sellers. Still in the courts I think. Many of the decent repositories hosting add-ons capable of sports streams got shut down. A lot of the add-on authors got scared into oblivion. Many, right in their code, do not support Canadian streams.

During 2015 and 2016 Sportsdevil successfully rebroadcasted most of the NHL’s schedule. In 2017 all hell broke loose. Maybe 1 in 10 streams actually worked. 2018, nothing. Every sports streaming add-on stopped working. Cartel mission accomplished.

A lot of the grey market services still work, but many aren’t accepting new subscribers. Myself, I can’t bring myself to give my credit card info out to someone who’s breaking the law. Feels wrong, and dangerous.

Starting this year I subscribe to Sportsnet Now+. Between that and CBC Gem I get enough hockey to satisfy me. I will not pay Bell one red cent for TSN, not now, not ever. Their douchebaggery offends me that much. If there’s a good game on TSN I want to watch, I slip across the street for a pitcher and wings, catch the game there.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 11:46 am ·

TTTTTT

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2020-Oct-5 11:59 am

Guys…you’re making my blood boil over here!!!
I too just don’t want to go to the grey market. But, I also don’t want to be screwed by the telcos anymore. I guess I’m just gonna have to start entertaining myself. I want to see a serious legal challenge against the telcos. Their greed is keeping us from some pretty cool technology.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 11:59 am · mr weather
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It has nothing to do with the technology. It’s all about content rights.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 12:42 pm ·

TTTTTT

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2020-Oct-5 1:10 pm

That’s what I mean. Technology without content – so to speak.

· actions · 2020-Oct-5 1:10 pm ·



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